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David Miller replied to the topic Causality and quantum mechanics (Online 7/15 @ 10 p.m. to Midnight UTC-7) in the forum Retrocausal theories 9 years, 2 months ago
Hi Ken
As a classical example of something sometimes being a cause and sometimes not, I think of the proverbial butterfly in the Amazon jungle causing a hurricane – sometimes it does but mainly it doesn’t.
I think you can only go so far with classical intuitions about quantum causes because as we have found out from nonlocality, etc “co…[Read more]
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David Miller replied to the topic Causality and quantum mechanics (Online 7/15 @ 10 p.m. to Midnight UTC-7) in the forum Retrocausal theories 9 years, 2 months ago
Hi Ken
Thanks for your comments. We will clarify the “switching” of A and B is not different time directions and include more references!
Yes, I think our paper is neutral with respect to ontic/epistemic.
I agree the distinction (if any!?) between “cause” and “correlator” needs further thought and elaboration. If Alice re-flips a fair coin s…[Read more]
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David Miller replied to the topic Causality and quantum mechanics (Online 7/15 @ 10 p.m. to Midnight UTC-7) in the forum Retrocausal theories 9 years, 2 months ago
Dear Bob
Thanks very much for your interest and comments. I agree with your reasoning entirely. You have raised valid points about temporal (ir)reversibility which is perfectly understandable because our submission is under the Topic “Time-symmetric theories”. But our submission, and I think some other of the submissions here, aren’t really purpo…[Read more]
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David Miller replied to the topic Quantum causal models, faithfulness and retrocausality (onl. 7/16 @ 11pm UTC+10) in the forum Retrocausal theories 9 years, 3 months ago
Hi Pete
Thanks for your interesting paper. For what it’s worth I vote for Fig. 4 of your paper.
I got a bit stuck on Sect. 4.2. How do we choose the values of $ alpha_2$ and $beta_2$? Do we have to anticipate what angles we are going to choose in other repetitions of the experiment?
On a more general note, is there any mileage in thinking a…[Read more]
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David Miller replied to the topic Causality and quantum mechanics (Online 7/15 @ 10 p.m. to Midnight UTC-7) in the forum Retrocausal theories 9 years, 3 months ago
Hi Michael
Fortunately the case we consider avoids the situation you refer to. For example, your example does not begin with a maximally mixed state and it is implicit in our case that each member of the ensemble is available for A, B and C to be performed on them.
When considering transitions, as your example does, the role of final states is a…[Read more]
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David Miller replied to the topic Retrocausality is intrinsic to quantum mechanics in the forum Retrocausal theories 9 years, 3 months ago
Hi Daniel Rohrlich
Firstly and with respect, I am very enthusiastic about your idea of using “the existence of a classical limit” as an axiom. Apart from the fact that you have shown it to be fruitful, I think it strengthens physicists’ “grip on reality” which seems to be being progressively loosened.
I have a few questions/comments about you…[Read more]
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David Miller replied to the topic Causality and quantum mechanics (Online 7/15 @ 10 p.m. to Midnight UTC-7) in the forum Retrocausal theories 9 years, 3 months ago
Hi Michael
Thanks for your question – it’s good to have a chance to try to explain in informal language.
We’re trying to see what QM per se can tell us about causality. For example, where in the algebra is retrocausality ruled out (if it is)? We know the joke about a physicist being asked to come up with a theory about horses in a paddock, the n…[Read more]
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David Miller started the topic Causality and quantum mechanics (Online 7/15 @ 10 p.m. to Midnight UTC-7) in the forum Retrocausal theories 9 years, 3 months ago
This is joint work with Matt Farr.
We are interested in the intrinsic causal structure of quantum mechanics. For instance: Is it possible for a cause to arise in a closed quantum system? Is the structure of quantum mechanics compatible with retrocausality, i.e. causal influence of “earlier” events by “later” events as indexed by the direction of…[Read more]
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