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Christopher Timpson replied to the topic Bell on Bell’s theorem: The changing face of nonlocality in the forum
John Bell Workshop 2014 8 years, 10 months ago
Thus: to exercise my gratefully-received author’s last-word prerogative.
I have a better understanding of where you’re coming from now Travis (I also managed to skim very quickly some parts of your paper—which I shall return to properly in hopefully not too long—and that helped me see better where some of our differences are emerging).
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Christopher Timpson replied to the topic Bell on Bell’s theorem: The changing face of nonlocality in the forum
John Bell Workshop 2014 8 years, 10 months ago
Hi Travis,
We seem to be going in circles, or talking past each other, which is disheartening. Of course, internet message boards aren’t the most subtle medium of communication ever devised, especially when it comes to nuances—perhaps we should convene over a beer at some point to thrash out whatever still needs thrashing out.
But let me have…[Read more]
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Christopher Timpson commented on the post, Bell on Bell's theorem: The changing face of nonlocality 8 years, 10 months ago
Hi Gregg,
Many thanks for your comments.
We do mention Shimony, but you are right that it might have been more elegant to do so earlier than we do.
Regarding your closing query the answer is – perhaps – but I’m not sure exactly what kind of position you have in mind.
Cheers,
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Christopher Timpson replied to the topic Bell on Bell’s theorem: The changing face of nonlocality in the forum
John Bell Workshop 2014 8 years, 11 months ago
Hi Travis,
Actually, I suspect that you are more familiar with the distinction between the occurrent and the modal than you realise – you (as all of us) will operate with the distinction hundreds, if not thousands, of times a day, in our ordinary thinking about, e.g., how things currently are in the world and how they would be were such-and-such…[Read more]
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Christopher Timpson replied to the topic Bell on Bell’s theorem: The changing face of nonlocality in the forum
John Bell Workshop 2014 8 years, 11 months ago
Hi Travis,
Thanks for these further comments. And yes – I’m keen to read your mentioned papers.
“Confusion or forgetfullness about the ontology” Are these really the only two diagnostic options 😉 Of course we agree that the universal state grounds the ontology and indeed the local density operators for individual regions of spacetime generally…[Read more]
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Christopher Timpson replied to the topic Bell on Bell’s theorem: The changing face of nonlocality in the forum
John Bell Workshop 2014 8 years, 11 months ago
Hi folks,
First, many thanks for these interesting comments and questions. Second, humble apologies for being so slow to reply (not least considering Travis’ and Howard’s getting the ball rolling so promptly): I can only plead the end of term and the whirlwind of the seasonal holidays.
But to the business:
In reply to Howard’s query – why not…[Read more]
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Between 1964 and 1990, the notion of nonlocality in Bell’s papers underwent a profound change as his nonlocality theorem gradually became detached from quantum mechanics, and referred to wider probabilistic theories involving correlations between separated beables. The proposition that standard quantum mechanics is itself nonlocal (more precisely,…[Read more]
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